SERIOUS QUESTION !!! Who agrees with me : People on WELFARE should NOT be allowed to have kids...TRUE OR FALSE

Unbelievable...Ignorant people so far;Has it ever occurred to any of you that people on welfare intentionally have children to gain more assistance from the government ? Anybody who applies for it or has been receiving it should not be allowed to have any more children.A good portion of those kids are not well-educated,not raised right,and do not contribute anything positive to society.The world is over-populated as it is(a severe understatement),and these 'certain people' should not be allowed to manipulate the system like that(the majority of them are lazy as hell and awful parents),and we do not need these types of kids brought into this world anyway.SERIOUS QUESTION !!! Who agrees with me : People on WELFARE should NOT be allowed to have kids...TRUE OR FALSE
I don't necessarily agree that they shouldn't be allowed to have kids - although where I'm from I also know for a fact that people have more kids to get more welfare money. Instead, I propose that people be allowed to stay on welfare for a certain time period, then they have to get a job unless they are cleared by a medical doctor working for the welfare department to remain on welfare because of an illness or injury that prevents them from working. Make welfare a bit like unemployment but a bit more long-term. Don't allow them to be on it for life. There are people where I am from who are third and fourth generation welfare recipients. They have no motivation to make something of themselves because they saw their parents and grandparents make a semi-decent living doing nothing but receiving money from other people's taxes. So instead of saying ';you can't have children,'; I think the welfare program should be set up so that you get a flat rate. Little or no extra money for more children, and have the Department of Family Services make regular checks on the families and if there's the slightest hint of a problem (such as the parents not being able to take care of their children), take the children away and revoke the welfare.





I know this will never work and never will be passed, but the welfare problems in this country need to be fixed somehow! There's no way you can prohibit a person from having children except in extreme cases where a court has approved it, but severe enough discouragement should most definitely be a key to the welfare system!SERIOUS QUESTION !!! Who agrees with me : People on WELFARE should NOT be allowed to have kids...TRUE OR FALSE
this is a very brave question. I think that your answer is really TRUE... but there's no way to control it. The best thing to do is to cut welfare benefits so that the recipients will 'see the light' and not put themselves into such a situation.





PS congratulations on making it!
oh i agree.





also, there should be a freaking test that you HAVE to pass in order to breed. it'll test your financial stability, test for psych problems, etc. you should also be FORCED to take yearly classes instructing you on how to care for your children.





but, alas, any idiot can go popping out kids these days.
It is sad there are people that are like this in our world. Sad because I have had friends that desperately need the assistance and get NOTHING.


Yes, it does happen, but anyone I know that is on it, truly needed the assistance. Then when they tried to get away from it, get a good job, support their kids, it was impossible to get ahead in the system.


Its out dated and needs revamped.
False. Most people on welfare don't intentionally have kids to get welfare. Most of them just need help to get back on their feet after an illness or loss of a job. That's a broad sweeping statement to lump everyone together like that.
this debate has gone on through history..we ALL need to get to work..soon it will be the only way you eat
It's not a true or false question. It's a yes or no question. The answer is no. That is, no to not allowing people on welfare to have children





You obviously have personal issues regarding the subject. You have an axe to grind. You can't be objective.
why not make welfare a temporary thing... in the meantime they have to prove they are making a move towards having a better life... for example finding a job, or enrolling in school, or joining an organization which will help people find work job skills making a resum茅 etc... if they don't they should lose welfare. after a certain amount of time if they don't find a job they should lose it, also if when they do find a job ( while submitting pay-stubs to prove they are making $$ and enough to live on) they should lose welfare... i also think if it was this way they can have a cap on how many times they can be on welfare...





telling people they can't have children is wrong and immoral! there are other ways to get around this problem...
The way welfare was set up it only lasted for a short time. Welfare needs to be rewritten to be a supplement to income. So as a person works they receive some added income to make up the difference of a living wage.





I agree with you though, to the point that after receiving welfare for some time straight, they should receive no more welfare, and their children should be put up for adoption if the parents still cant care for them.





The last option is basically to force the parents into work. The government could provide jobs cleaning public toilets.
I don't think additional benefits should be handed out for additional children. The best kind of welfare is birth control. Unfortunately, moralists passing themselves off as conservatives don't agree.
I completely agree with you. It's so annoying.


Some of those breeders should have the tubes tied!
False.
I think children as a rule who are raised within the welfare system by their parents become welfare parents themselves. It is a never ending cycle.


I don't think anyone should be refained from having children but the welfare system needs a complete overhaul for sure





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and up above there somewhere, somebody said the Welfare system no longer hand out checks....that is true in a sense but they put cash on your EBT card (which BTW is a food stamp card) you can use that EBT card just like a debt card.
The government has no business telling people whether they can have kids or not.





It also has no business using taxes as a tool of socialist income re-distribution.








Combining the two would just be sick.
In most states in order to receive welfare assistance you have to have children. So what about them?


I think if you continue to have children while on welfare, your assistance should not increase. It should remain the same as before you had the additional child.


Some people on welfare are lazy. But others work their tails off trying to provide for their family. Sometimes they lost their job, sometimes their spouse ran off and left them penniless. You never know.
True. they should be given a temporary form of sterilization. Sound harsh, well it is and rightfully so. If you cannot afford to support yourself and need hard working people tax dollars to live, why should you then make us pay more for you to support your children.
Fine idea. But what about recent immigrants in their twilight years who'd never worked here and receive Supplemental Security Income (SSI) of $600 a month? I worked for forty years and receive not much more than double that amount? These type of people make me sick to my stomach.
TRUE!





It is unbelievable and totally absurd that ignoramuses here are calling you Hitler. It is a basic moral responsibility not to have children unless you can provide for them. Those who shirk that responsibility bring children into the world who will be deprived of basic necessities. It is the obligation of parents, NOT society or the government, to provide care for children. People who cannot provide adequate care for children should not be allowed to have them. It is just simple common sense, and anyone who does not see that is a complete moron.
I agree. I think that if a woman goes on Welfare, she should be required to be on Depo-provera (unless she is allergic to it) to receive tax-payer benefits. The reason why I say Depo-provera is to make sure she actually takes her birth control like she's suppose to.
Haven't kept up with current events, have you. The old welfare system where you got more money by having more kids died a quick death back in the late 1990's. Very few people are now on ';welfare'; and those that are are required to go through job training and work if they are able. So most able bodied and not so able bodied people are working, making an income, more than at any time in US history since World War II. Unfortunately the republican congress enabled corporations to outsource many of the good paying industrial jobs to other countries in order to increase their profits, which they don't pay taxes on. So our people are working 2 or 3 jobs at minimum wage or so, in order to eat and have someplace to live.
Well i think the welfare assistance should continue for family's who are receiving welfare buttttttttttt after having 2 children and living on welfare i think its time for the government to say OK have all the kids you want to have . but you the parents will some how foot the bill for them . the government benefits stop after the second child .
I dont know what laws your state have adopted, but the state I live in after 2 children you receive no extra cash assistance, now they will continue to get an increase in wic %26amp; food stamps, but not cash. So to think that someone is purposely having kids to get a larger welfare check is old school. The system used to be easy like that but it has changed, plus they have to enroll in some form of schooling or job training program %26amp; show the proof to avoid being cut off. If other states laws havent changed then they surely need to I think its only fair, because welfare is supposed to be temporary help, not lifelong handouts.
There is no more welfare. Your nightmare is over.





I think that people should have to take birth control until they get a license to have kids.





A motor vehicle license and a parenting license ought to have a psyche eval attached to them, to be readministered every four years. Keep us crazies off the roads and out of the maternity wards.





I am sorry for your crappy life, mine was crappy too and my parents were too proud to take public assistance. They just made us do without. Bad parents come in all shapes and styles.
/ Money from the government isn't the best answer, obviously.





...But, you must admit some mothers love their children and want them regardless of their own financial condition.





My own mother once told me, ';If you wait until you have money before having children, you'll never have any.';





This is America, not China.
i have to agree with you there;irresponsible people should not be allowed to have more children while they are on welfare
Oh please, now you want to control reproductive rights? Oh no, it's 1984, all hail the party, sterilize the Proles!
So, what, manditory abortions then?





and what about folks who have kids and go on welfare? put 'em to sleep maybe?
Well, APPARENTLY YOU NEED AN EDUCATION!!! WELFARE no longer hands out checks!!!
I don't think the state should dictate the number of children a woman or a family has. That being said, I also agree that making reproduction an incentive for added welfare benefits is a problem. Rather than give extra benefits for children whom the mother or family cannot afford, I suggest that said children be adopted by people who can afford to raise them, and who can educate them properly. This could aid in total integration--not only on a broad social scale, but more completely, on a familial level. That is, instead of poor kids being raised by their parents, they would be raised by people who can afford to raise them and who can also educate them.





But most parents are going to love their children and are not going to want to give them up for adoption. Of course, no one should be forced to give up a child for adoption based on income or any other factor. Otherwise, we have state racism or classisim in operation. Adoption should be a voluntary option only.
You know, COMMUNIST China tried to dictate to people how many children to have. They only allowed one child per family. Many female babies were aborted because families wanted a boy so the parents would be taken care of later in life and the family name could live on, something a female couldn't provide, the endresult being like 9 men for every woman in China. Maybe you should go live there since that is what you agree with. Then you couldn't find anyone to f*** and further infest the earth.
Is your last name Hitler by any chance?