Friday, February 5, 2010

This question is for fellow Oneness Apostolic - I believe Jesus is the one True God.?

I am hearing conflicting views from people from within UPCI. They say that Jesus is separate from the Father, and the Father and the Holy Spirit but are distinct from Jesus.





Where as I believe Jesus is the Father, Son, Holy Ghost that there is no distinction in that Jesus is one and that he is the one True God.





I have heard a few people say Jesus is not the Father in UPCI but I believe that he is. Please tell me why there is different views on this matter. It was my understanding that UPCI believed in one God.This question is for fellow Oneness Apostolic - I believe Jesus is the one True God.?
Jesus is God, God is one. There is no difference between Jesus and the Father, they are one. Do not worry about different views, you have it right, all scripture is in accord with this.





There could perhaps be made distinctions over the different facets, aspects, or functions between the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. But any attempt to state these inevitably throw confusion over the fact that they are one, so such distinctions should never be made.





People should not try to explain what they cannot understand, for it casts dispersions upon God. The thinking that tries to identify the Godhead as separate identities often leads to assertions that Jesus was not eternal, and ';became God';. This is a lie.





Colosians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.





1st John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.This question is for fellow Oneness Apostolic - I believe Jesus is the one True God.?
I think there is some confusion, but it's mostly semantics. In his flesh, Jesus was human... and therefore a human being with His own nature. But according to the Spirit, He is the Father. And the Father and Holy Spirit are one and the same Spirit.





Your understanding is pretty much correct.
Isaiah 9:6


For unto us a child is born, ( JESUS ) unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty GOD, The everlasting FATHER, The Prince of Peace.





1 Timothy 3:16


And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:


%26gt;%26gt;%26gt; GOD was manifest in the FLESH,%26lt;%26lt;%26lt;


justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.





Acts 2:38


Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be %26gt;%26gt;baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ %26lt;%26lt;for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


( The name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost , Matt 28:19 )


Also in Acts 8:15-16


Acts 10:48


Acts 19:5


Acts 20:28 ( reference to Jesus being the Holy Ghost )





Answer---


Depends.... Is He just your Savior


OR


Lord and Savior with His Spirit Living in you???
I've been UPCI since december of 2000.I think either that person is explaining it wrong.OR they don't know they are talking about, hopefully the former.We believe Jesus IS God the Father,God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost. Blessings!!!
Your understanding of Jesus is 100% correct.





Perhaps what some ppl meant was that God (meaning the spirit) did not die. The body did.





As you already have stated Jesus is the Father, Son AND Holy Ghost.
I'm not a Oneness Apostolic but the reason why people deny the Trinity is because of the fact that Jesus claims throughout the Bible that he is less than his Father. I believe he also told the disciples not to call him good because no one is good except for my Father, I could be mistaken though. He also prayed to God. And it is pretty wacked to think that Jesus is his own dad.
I prefer to disbelieve in any true gods. dead men tell no lies.
Scripture presents conclusive evidence that Jesus Christ was in fact resurrected from the dead. Christ’s resurrection is recorded in Matthew 28:1-20; Mark 16:1-20; Luke 24:1-53; and John 20:1–21:25. The resurrected Christ also appeared in the Book of Acts (Acts 1:1-11). From these passages you can gain several “proofs” of Christ’s resurrection. First is the dramatic change in the disciples. They went from a group of men frightened and in hiding to strong, courageous witnesses sharing the gospel throughout the world. What else could explain this dramatic change other than the risen Christ appearing to them?





Second is the life of the apostle Paul. What changed him from being a persecutor of the church into an apostle for the church? It was when the risen Christ appeared to him on the road to Damascus (Acts 9:1-6). A third convincing proof is the empty tomb. If Christ were not raised, then where is His body? The disciples and others saw the tomb where He was buried. When they returned, His body was not there. Angels declared that He had been raised from the dead as He had promised (Matthew 28:5-7). Fourth, additional evidence of His resurrection is the many people He appeared to (Matthew 28:5, 9, 16-17; Mark 16:9; Luke 24:13-35; John 20:19, 24, 26-29, 21:1-14; Acts 1:6-8; 1 Corinthians 15:5-7).





Another proof of the resurrection of Jesus is the great amount of weight the apostles gave to Jesus' resurrection. A key passage on Christ’s resurrection is 1 Corinthians 15. In this chapter, the apostle Paul explains why it is crucial to understand and believe in Christ’s resurrection. The resurrection is important for the following reasons: 1) If Christ was not raised from the dead, believers will not be either (1 Corinthians 15:12-15). 2) If Christ was not raised from the dead, His sacrifice for sin was not sufficient (1 Corinthians 15:16-19). Jesus’ resurrection proved that His death was accepted by God as the atonement for our sins. If He had simply died and stayed dead, that would indicate His sacrifice was not sufficient. As a result, believers would not be forgiven for their sins, and they would remain dead after they die (1 Corinthians 15:16-19). There would be no such thing as eternal life (John 3:16). “But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep” (1 Corinthians 15:20 NAS).





Finally, Scripture is clear that all those who believe in Jesus Christ will be raised to eternal life just as He was (1 Corinthians 15:20-23). First Corinthians 15 goes on to describe how Christ’s resurrection proves His victory over sin and provides us the power to live victoriously over sin (1 Corinthians 15:24-34). It describes the glorious nature of the resurrection body we will receive (1 Corinthians 15:35-49). It proclaims that, as a result of Christ’s resurrection, all who believe in Him have ultimate victory over death (1 Corinthians 15:50-58).





What a glorious truth the resurrection of Christ is! “Therefore, my dear brothers, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain” (1 Corinthians 15:58). According to the Bible, the resurrection of Jesus Christ is most definitely true. The Bible records Christ's resurrection, records that it was witnessed by over 400 people, and proceeds to build crucial Christian doctrine on the historical fact of Jesus' resurrection.

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